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that's why they won't do it, right? romney won't tell us what he's getting rid of it because if he's getting rid of it, he's killing charitable organizations that need the money from charity. you start capping that, start messing around with people's mortgages, the one thing they need to build up some capital and personal worth. you mess with state and local. are you supposed to move if you live in new york or a high tax state like massachusetts, you're supposed to move because romney got elected? >> listen, his tax cut plan is going to slam about 68% of the american people, not 47% of the american people. he can't provide real details. you could close every single loophole that benefits the wealthy and just close it for the wealthy and it wouldn't pay for a fraction of the tax cut he's giving the wealthy. >> because they're still getting ahead. >> reducing capital gains to zero which means romney would pay virtually zero taxes. he's going to come back and say i want to work this out with the congress. well, i just don'
that's why they won't do it, right? romney won't tell us what he's getting rid of it because if he's getting rid of it, he's killing charitable organizations that need the money from charity. you start capping that, start messing around with people's mortgages, the one thing they need to build up some capital and personal worth. you mess with state and local. are you supposed to move if you live in new york or a high tax state like massachusetts, you're supposed to move because romney got...
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wade except by electing mitt romney, right? who will then pick supreme court judges who will do that. but they can't make it so hard to get an abortion that it might as well be illegal. they can make the right to access abortion a right in name only. after republicans won big majorities in 2010, they've enacted restrictions not seen. since roe vs. wade was decided in 1973. and as a result of this new wave of restrictions, we're seeing signs of a return to a reality in america that is looking more and more like the days before roe. "business week" published an interesting story this week out of arizona about a woman who is running a nonprofit program there to help poor women in arizona find ways to access abortions. discusses these new restrictions. you can no longer get an abortion outside tucson or phoenix in arizona. and even then you have to wait 24 hours after a forced ultrasound, which means many women are forced to travel hundreds of miles, and then pay to stay overnight in one of those two cities. pending another new abo
wade except by electing mitt romney, right? who will then pick supreme court judges who will do that. but they can't make it so hard to get an abortion that it might as well be illegal. they can make the right to access abortion a right in name only. after republicans won big majorities in 2010, they've enacted restrictions not seen. since roe vs. wade was decided in 1973. and as a result of this new wave of restrictions, we're seeing signs of a return to a reality in america that is looking...
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he knows exactly what romney is going to bring at him. brett is right. i think romfully be respectful. but i think the challenge will be to counterpunch as effectively as possible. >> brett, gq wrote about the squ advice you gave romney. here is a quote more using qualifiers that feed the perception of you as a flip-flopperment attack gingrich constantly, call him a washington insider, a fannie/freddie lobbyist. make him so apoplectic he can't talk. >> i think it was a matter of focus. and assisting in terms of what needed to happen strategically. i think in this debate he's got to do the same thing. he's got to be aggressive with the president and the president's policies. if the debate becomes about anything other than the economic policies and the vision in terms he wants to lay out in terms of where he wants to take the country economically, he is losing. >> you mentioned debate about his economic policy. one of the chief criticisms that has been thrown at the governor at this point is that his economic policy is fairly vague. he hasn't laid out spec
he knows exactly what romney is going to bring at him. brett is right. i think romfully be respectful. but i think the challenge will be to counterpunch as effectively as possible. >> brett, gq wrote about the squ advice you gave romney. here is a quote more using qualifiers that feed the perception of you as a flip-flopperment attack gingrich constantly, call him a washington insider, a fannie/freddie lobbyist. make him so apoplectic he can't talk. >> i think it was a matter of...
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so when i hear barack obama saying mitt romney's a right-wing radical and mitt romney's saying barack obama is a european socialist, it's a joke because al, there's not, unfortunately, a lot of serious talk about -- and you talk to simpson-bowles about the key issues that are going to bankrupt us, not in the next generation, but over the next decade. >> you're right, joe. and the architecture's out there. we know what we have to do. >> right. >> both sides know what we have to do. both sides have to compromise some. particularly social security's not that hard at all. >> no. >> but no one's talking about it. this is a strange campaign. in some ways people talk about what they want to do 10 or 15 years from now. no one's talking about what we're going to do in the next couple years. usually it's the other way around with politicians. neither romney nor obama has told people here's how your life will be better if i'm elected president. >> or harder. >> there are some sacrifices, but those sacrifices are supposed to make it better. >> but we talked last night, mark, about candidates and
so when i hear barack obama saying mitt romney's a right-wing radical and mitt romney's saying barack obama is a european socialist, it's a joke because al, there's not, unfortunately, a lot of serious talk about -- and you talk to simpson-bowles about the key issues that are going to bankrupt us, not in the next generation, but over the next decade. >> you're right, joe. and the architecture's out there. we know what we have to do. >> right. >> both sides know what we have to...
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right at the top of that debate last night when romney first mentioned trickle-down government, obama only, it obvi it's easy to say in retrospect, he should have said, no, you're the big supporter of trickle-down economics, let's not confuse the issue, let's be clear, you believe in trickle-down economics and grab the initiative. he has to do that the next time when romney plays these word games. >> is the thing to do to name the tactic? you are doing this in order to confuse the fact, in order to, you know, occlude the accusation against you that, i mean, is that how you do it? >> go that, go after the tactic. again, it's easy to say this as a monday morning quarterback, but then you pivot to the substance of it and explain why what he just said is not true. you don't call him a liar or say that's not true. or do something that can end up, you know, going viral in some way that is not helpful to the campaign. just have to very clearly and cogently, and it was cogency that was lacking last night, rip through the other guy's point. >> mitt romney said he does not espouse positions he'
right at the top of that debate last night when romney first mentioned trickle-down government, obama only, it obvi it's easy to say in retrospect, he should have said, no, you're the big supporter of trickle-down economics, let's not confuse the issue, let's be clear, you believe in trickle-down economics and grab the initiative. he has to do that the next time when romney plays these word games. >> is the thing to do to name the tactic? you are doing this in order to confuse the fact,...
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right now follow the marching bands to the polls. the romney folks are behind. they don't want america to vote right now. if america went and voted right now, nate silver says president obama would win by 138 electoral vote. there are no marching bands leading people to the polls from the romney side right now. that is not what they need. what the romney side needs is they'd still have to persuade people that mitt romney is the guy to vote for. they need to fix what's gone wrong. they need to stop doing whatever it is that has turned so many people off to their candidate. when you ask voters whether they like this mitt romney guy, the answer is a very, very plain answer. no. his favorable ratings are in the low 40s, almost 10 points lower than the ratings for president obama. lower even than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think mitt romney cares about the needs of people like them. some of them are shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will
right now follow the marching bands to the polls. the romney folks are behind. they don't want america to vote right now. if america went and voted right now, nate silver says president obama would win by 138 electoral vote. there are no marching bands leading people to the polls from the romney side right now. that is not what they need. what the romney side needs is they'd still have to persuade people that mitt romney is the guy to vote for. they need to fix what's gone wrong. they need to...
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right now follow the marching bands to the polls. the romney folks are behind. they don't want america to vote right now. if america went and voted right now, nate silver says president obama would win by 138 electoral vote. there are no marching bands leading people to the polls from the romney side right now. that is not what they need. what the romney side needs is they'd still have to persuade people that mitt romney is the guy to vote for. they need to stop doing whatever it is that has turned so many people off to their candidate. when you ask voters whether they like this mitt romney guy, the answer is a very, very plain answer. no. his favorable ratings are in the low 40s, almost 10 points lower than the ratings for president obama. lower even than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think mitt romney cares about the needs of people like them. some of them are shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will favor the middle class. in florida
right now follow the marching bands to the polls. the romney folks are behind. they don't want america to vote right now. if america went and voted right now, nate silver says president obama would win by 138 electoral vote. there are no marching bands leading people to the polls from the romney side right now. that is not what they need. what the romney side needs is they'd still have to persuade people that mitt romney is the guy to vote for. they need to stop doing whatever it is that has...
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a lot of people are going to be watching given the last debate and he needs to go right at governor romney and completely destroy this notion that reinventing himself, let alone introducing and proposing the same policies are going to create a different outcome. he can definitely do that. we've seen that. >> right wing conservative talking points dying on this friday in october. chris kofinis, good to have you with us tonight. thank you so much. >>> coming up workers at an ohio coal mine. they were forced to attend a romney event without pay. you know what, folks? that's not all. find out what else employees of a major energy company were forced to do. >>> and 17 days after his 47% remark romney says, ah, he was wrong. and there's something very curious about all of this and we'll explain. stay tuned. we're coming right back on "the ed show." >>> by the way, i like coal. i'm going to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. people in the coal industry feel like it's getting crushed by your policies. >> that was mitt romney attacking the industry and declaring his love for the coal ind
a lot of people are going to be watching given the last debate and he needs to go right at governor romney and completely destroy this notion that reinventing himself, let alone introducing and proposing the same policies are going to create a different outcome. he can definitely do that. we've seen that. >> right wing conservative talking points dying on this friday in october. chris kofinis, good to have you with us tonight. thank you so much. >>> coming up workers at an ohio...
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so the danger of this tax reform trap that governor romney is trying to sell right now is that you're going to end up with massively lower tax rates and you're not going to broaden the base much at all such that you'll have an explosive budget deficit, it's very much what we saw in the bush supply side trickle down years. >> bob, debatess left. the vice presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that somehow or other only the first debates matter. i think the other debates will have big audiences. i'm through with the expectations game. i think vice president biden will do very well next week. i think the president will bring his best game to these next two debates. this guy is a fourth quarter player. we saw it on health care and in the 2008 primaries. when the going to gets tough, when the pressure is on, he really steps up to it. i think barack obama whether do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters think about this,do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters thin
so the danger of this tax reform trap that governor romney is trying to sell right now is that you're going to end up with massively lower tax rates and you're not going to broaden the base much at all such that you'll have an explosive budget deficit, it's very much what we saw in the bush supply side trickle down years. >> bob, debatess left. the vice presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that...
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what's so fascinating about the reception to this on the right is that romney substancetively moved to the left, no question, and it's also the moment that he's been most embraced by the right. >> exactly. >> the reason is this, the thing conservatives care the most about is pissing off liberals. the thing that makes them happiest is when liberals are angry at you. if you infuriate liberals by moving to the left and confounding their beloved president, they're going to love you. they don't care. >> one more thing, they don't really worry that he would actually do what he says. >> that's the other thing. that is the big question. >> they know that once he gets elected he'll move back to the right but not as far right as he was during the primaries. >> at least they think so. >> they think so. >> the larger question, is anyone going to change their opinion based on this quote, unquote, lackluster performance by the president. if you supported him, you might be disappointed, calling joy wondering what happened but you're still going to vote for the president. >> it's the undecided. >> who
what's so fascinating about the reception to this on the right is that romney substancetively moved to the left, no question, and it's also the moment that he's been most embraced by the right. >> exactly. >> the reason is this, the thing conservatives care the most about is pissing off liberals. the thing that makes them happiest is when liberals are angry at you. if you infuriate liberals by moving to the left and confounding their beloved president, they're going to love you....
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this could signal a pretty significant shift to the right. >> your latest title focused on 34i9 romney. commiserating with the moneyed masses. >> i went to his event in northern virginia and he was talking to a group of veterans and large numbers of unemployment and income forming and i took a stroll through the parking lot with that my roles and the romney bumper sticker on it. but i think that was a metaphor for what the problem is here and that he has his reputation of being a scrooge mcduck and he can't seem to shake it no matter what he says. it's just sort of baked in at this point, i don't know how he gets around and positions himself as a man of the people when he's seen as the man of bain capital. >> we're going to get some unique insights about presidential debates from a broadcasting pioneer carol simpson was the first minority woman to moderate a presidential debate back in 1992, he's going to join us in about a half an hour. >>> we're getting a deadly reminder of the -- two americans, one soldier and one civilian contractor killed during another green on blue attack in thi
this could signal a pretty significant shift to the right. >> your latest title focused on 34i9 romney. commiserating with the moneyed masses. >> i went to his event in northern virginia and he was talking to a group of veterans and large numbers of unemployment and income forming and i took a stroll through the parking lot with that my roles and the romney bumper sticker on it. but i think that was a metaphor for what the problem is here and that he has his reputation of being a...
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obama at 45%, mitt romney 42%. thanks for coming and taking time to talk with us. we appreciate it. >> thanks and congratulations and best wishes to you. >> thank you. i appreciate that. >>> still ahead this hour, the supreme court's new term. could this be the year marriage equality goes front and center in front of the highest court? >>> and ten years later, what the sole surviving d.c. sniper is saying about the attacks that trzed the nation's capital. s tie for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. >>> now underway at the nation's highest court. the panel of supremes back on the bench this morning for the first time since it's ruling on the universal health care law. their first order of business to ask the justice department to respond to a question from virginia that is challenging that law. meantime the new docket is stack stacked with same sex marriage, affirmative ac
obama at 45%, mitt romney 42%. thanks for coming and taking time to talk with us. we appreciate it. >> thanks and congratulations and best wishes to you. >> thank you. i appreciate that. >>> still ahead this hour, the supreme court's new term. could this be the year marriage equality goes front and center in front of the highest court? >>> and ten years later, what the sole surviving d.c. sniper is saying about the attacks that trzed the nation's capital. s tie for...
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but what chris christie says is right as predicted if you're mitt romney. donors are nervous, and perhaps in christie's mind his assertion was an atelt to boost the morral of romney's supporters. the bottom line, if christie's aspirations do not come true, romney has bigger problems. people who pay no federal tacks and get government help, were, quote, inarticulate. >> we've had some missteps but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear and we're giving people a really clear choice. >> but when ryan was asked by fox's chris wallace whether the media is, quote, carrying water for barack obama, ryan took the bait and ryan wasn't the only one who thinks the media is preparing to game him a raw deal. >> i think it kind of goes without saying there is definitely a media bias. >> i think most media are left of center and therefore they want a left of center versus a conservative president like mom. >> it's going to be ups and downs and we know the media is anxious to write the romney/ryan comeback story. >> everybody is playing. we know some of the quest
but what chris christie says is right as predicted if you're mitt romney. donors are nervous, and perhaps in christie's mind his assertion was an atelt to boost the morral of romney's supporters. the bottom line, if christie's aspirations do not come true, romney has bigger problems. people who pay no federal tacks and get government help, were, quote, inarticulate. >> we've had some missteps but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear and we're giving people a really clear...
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over on fox news, they know different, right? right? >> why are you and romney losing at this race? >> we're going to win this race. given that, we're going to win this race. >> but you are not at this point. you're losing. >> here's what we're saying. >> fox news to paul ryan, quote, you're losing. ouch. when they turn to the ryan/romney economic plan which would somehow reduce the deficit or popular deductions. >> you're the master of the budget. so briefly let's go through the plan. the obama plan says independent groups say if you cut those tax rates for everybody 20%, it costs $5 trillion over ten years. true? >> not in the least bit true. look, this just goes to show, if you for tur statics enough, they will confess enough to what you want them to say. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm not talking about the cut. we'll get to the deductions. but the cut in the tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all american tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions. >>
over on fox news, they know different, right? right? >> why are you and romney losing at this race? >> we're going to win this race. given that, we're going to win this race. >> but you are not at this point. you're losing. >> here's what we're saying. >> fox news to paul ryan, quote, you're losing. ouch. when they turn to the ryan/romney economic plan which would somehow reduce the deficit or popular deductions. >> you're the master of the budget. so briefly...
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let me say it in the right anchorman manner. mitt romney did what he had to do tonight. that what we're going to have to live through? >> through the weekend. >> oh, god. >> i think he has to do more than just be equivalent on the stage. at this point mitt romney is still not well enough liked. he hasn't broken through with the argument about what he's going to do that's so different about the economy in the future that he's irresistible as the choice. >> let's talk about the math. here in the rockies, i was thinking, they're trying to get the waitingen train over the mountain. that's what we're trying to do with this economy. here comes an outliar, i know a pass, that's romney. i've been through this territory. i can get you through this pass. the question s do we have to take the map before we tail after him? are we going to chase after romney unless he shows us the map? >> i think he does have to show us the map, show us more specifics because we don't know him. what we know of him we don't necessarily like or trust. you're not going to go over into the rockies and up
let me say it in the right anchorman manner. mitt romney did what he had to do tonight. that what we're going to have to live through? >> through the weekend. >> oh, god. >> i think he has to do more than just be equivalent on the stage. at this point mitt romney is still not well enough liked. he hasn't broken through with the argument about what he's going to do that's so different about the economy in the future that he's irresistible as the choice. >> let's talk...
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. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports" countdown to denver. president obama and mitt romney prepare for their first debate. both sides trying to lower expectations. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> flashpoint libya, the white house on the defensive after reports of both security and intelligence nurse in benghazi before that terror attack. >> standing up, sitting down. >> which ever one you like. >> there you go. >> do whatever they tell us. >> the white house line is you heard the president say, osama bin laden is dead, al qaeda is done, everything is fine in the middle east. this, obviously, contradicts -- ther series of events contradicts that campaign slogan. so, the fact is, that this was clearly an act of terror committed by people who were pretty well trained jihadists. >> more car
. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports" countdown to denver. president obama and mitt romney prepare for their first debate. both sides trying to lower expectations. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage....
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what mitt romney and president obama have to say right now. this is a saturday afternoon and you are watching msnbc. the place for politics. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the fork. does it do turn-by-turn navigation ? droid does. with verizon, america's largest 4g lte network, and motorola, droid does. get $100 off select motorola 4g lte smartphones like the droid razr. >>> i'm craig melvin. here's a quick look at some of the top stories making news right now. after a long lockout and a triumphant return to the football field thursday, the nfl referees have now voted to approve a new eight-year deal. today's yes vote comes after three weeks of problems surrounding league
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internally, mitt romney's in trouble right now. that can all change on wednesday night. >>> coming up, senator john mccain joins us on set. also, senator chuck schumer, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and tom brokaw. >>> up next, mike allen up next with the top stories in the "politico playbook." first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> happy october, everyone. this is the month of change weatherwise, where we start to cool things off in a hurry and start to watch the leaves coming down. as we head through this month, expect a much cooler month than we've had in months past. we're looking at the middle of the country especially with below-average temperatures as we go throughout the first two weeks. now, as far as this morning goes, two big storms on the map. one has been plaguing northern new england all weekend long. the other one has been plaguing the deep south. they're both on the move today. and we are going to watch that rainy weather spreading. also severe storms are possible once again in alabama into geo
internally, mitt romney's in trouble right now. that can all change on wednesday night. >>> coming up, senator john mccain joins us on set. also, senator chuck schumer, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and tom brokaw. >>> up next, mike allen up next with the top stories in the "politico playbook." first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> happy october, everyone. this is the month of change weatherwise, where we start to cool things...
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the governor romney who ttacked far to the right, like the blunt amendment and say he was for it that romney is going to get swamped in the philadelphia suburbs and the cleveland suburbs. >> governor rendell, thank you so much for having you on. >> thank you. thank you. >>> up next, we will dig deeper into the nbc news poll and why it says tonight's debate is so crucial for governor romney. and the answer may not be what you're thinking right now. >>> but first, there's a lot going on today. here are some things we just thought you should know. education secretary arne duncan is calling for printed textbooks to become obsolete within the next few years. wow. duncan says the u.s. is fall willing behind other nations that are already traps sigging from print to digital school books. >>> and who's going tonight next big cheese? chee-tos hired an artist to make portraits of president obama, governor romney made entirely of cheat toes. each one is made of 2,000 of the snack food. >>> and jimmy fallon had some fun last night with a report that mitt romney's team stays is loading the candida
the governor romney who ttacked far to the right, like the blunt amendment and say he was for it that romney is going to get swamped in the philadelphia suburbs and the cleveland suburbs. >> governor rendell, thank you so much for having you on. >> thank you. thank you. >>> up next, we will dig deeper into the nbc news poll and why it says tonight's debate is so crucial for governor romney. and the answer may not be what you're thinking right now. >>> but first,...
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compare president obama's lead over mitt romney right now. 6%. it's outside the margin of error. could president obama suffer a loss in the same way as president obama carter did despite the lead with more than a month to go, ed o'keefe? >> of course. that's why the only poll that matters is the one that's taken on election day when people actually vote. these polls are meant to serve as quick snapshots of how people were feeling at varying points in time. we use them because we're eager to understand how it is that the electorate is reacting to everything going on. five weeks remain. what is it, 37 days? anything can happen. it could be the debate on wednesday. it could be some other surprise on wednesday or here in the united states. everything could change. that's why it's important that everyone remember that these are just quick snapshots. we use them. it behooves journalists to make sure we don't rely on them too much to start drawing conclusions. >> we do love polls here. it gives us something to talk about. let me ask you this. i have a buddy who contends one of the effec
compare president obama's lead over mitt romney right now. 6%. it's outside the margin of error. could president obama suffer a loss in the same way as president obama carter did despite the lead with more than a month to go, ed o'keefe? >> of course. that's why the only poll that matters is the one that's taken on election day when people actually vote. these polls are meant to serve as quick snapshots of how people were feeling at varying points in time. we use them because we're eager...
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stay right here. >>> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> republican voter suppression in pennsylvania is dealt a death blow in the courts. but the cheating goes on in colorado. tonight an update on the rnc voter fraud scandal. >>> early voting starts today. today. >> the first lady is firing up supporters as voters swarm the polls. we'll bring you the latest on ohio early voting. >>> and mitt romney's billionaire supporters are complaining about the president louder than ever. >> we need leadership, not criticism. we need encouragement, not discouragement. >> tonight e.j. dionne on the obama/billionaire hate club. sweetie, you have to scrub it first. no you don't, honey. yes, you do! don't! i've washed a few cupcake tins in my day... oh, so you're a tin expert now. whoa nelly! hi, kitchen counselor here. he's actually right... with cascade complete. see cascade complete pacs work like thousands of micro-scrubbing brushes to help power away tough foods even in corners and edges. so, i was right, right? i've gotta run. more dishwash
stay right here. >>> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> republican voter suppression in pennsylvania is dealt a death blow in the courts. but the cheating goes on in colorado. tonight an update on the rnc voter fraud scandal. >>> early voting starts today. today. >> the first lady is firing up supporters as voters swarm the polls. we'll bring you the latest on ohio early voting. >>> and mitt romney's...
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for the romney campaign where they are right now, the national polls tighten a little bit, but the battleground polls is he still has a major problem. it's the narrative killing this campaign, and he has to change that narrative. he has to be extremely aggressive and respectful at the same time while also being elm thettic and delivering specifics. that's a lot to do in a 90-minute debate. i think the challenge for both candidates and where president obama may have a strength. rom knee, i don't know if he does or not, the no time limit. you have no time limit on these answers can be dangerous and an incredible opportunity. >> you can talk yourself in a hole. >> you can talk yourself in a hole, but you can use it to frame and box your opponent in. >> we'll see if there's a clear winner. thank you very much, michael. thank you, chris. it's always a pleasure. >>> a huge victory for democrats in pennsylvania in a hard-fought battle against that state's new voter i.d. law for now. a judge in the past few hours blocked the law from goalkeeper into effect. judge simpson ordered the sat not to enforce
for the romney campaign where they are right now, the national polls tighten a little bit, but the battleground polls is he still has a major problem. it's the narrative killing this campaign, and he has to change that narrative. he has to be extremely aggressive and respectful at the same time while also being elm thettic and delivering specifics. that's a lot to do in a 90-minute debate. i think the challenge for both candidates and where president obama may have a strength. rom knee, i don't...
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mitt romney's adopted home state there, if you will. >> right, so he'll be doing that for sure in new hampshire and then in ohio today. okay, thank you very much, ron mott appreciate that. >>> let's get more on the president's surge in the polls. he is increasing his lead in a number of key swing states. he's leading in all nine nbc/"wall street journal"/marist polls taken over the last three weeks. let's talk about what's happening from the gop perspective. because some there are complaining about the polling. they say the pollsters are oversampling democrats. any legitimacy to any of these complaints? >> well, you know, alex one of the things that we often find is that the side that's complaining about polling or the media usually the side that's down. so, that's i think more of what's happening here, rather than the polls being skewed in some way. i mean, i think our pollsters, you know, we use a republican polling firm. we use with a democratic polling firm. they're, you know, have great reputations, and they try their best to match these numbers as best they can to census and reg
mitt romney's adopted home state there, if you will. >> right, so he'll be doing that for sure in new hampshire and then in ohio today. okay, thank you very much, ron mott appreciate that. >>> let's get more on the president's surge in the polls. he is increasing his lead in a number of key swing states. he's leading in all nine nbc/"wall street journal"/marist polls taken over the last three weeks. let's talk about what's happening from the gop perspective. because...
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. >> right, right. >> for mitt romney's win. that's aamamazinamazing. >> some colleagues on this channel, i thought msnbc's coverage after this was great last night. i was watching chris matthews. he got there about the same time barack obama did. he didn't have any trouble with energy. >> no. >> he didn't have any trouble. >> he was wired and on top of it. >> speaking our friends at current. we commented on jennifer granholm's exuberance during the speech. if you tuk her exushance and combined it with barack obama's nonexuberance, you could have found a happy balance there. you have the perfect candidate. >> we could morph them. we need a hybrid. >> can we merge those together? >> emotionally mitt is much closer to jennifer on that scale. he seemed caffeinated and on ludes and stuff like that. >> he had a diet coke and maybe two. >> he seemed much more energized than we've seen. >> think of the republican primary debates. it was newt gingrich and rick santorum. he needed to turn it on in the republican primaries, and he did. >>
. >> right, right. >> for mitt romney's win. that's aamamazinamazing. >> some colleagues on this channel, i thought msnbc's coverage after this was great last night. i was watching chris matthews. he got there about the same time barack obama did. he didn't have any trouble with energy. >> no. >> he didn't have any trouble. >> he was wired and on top of it. >> speaking our friends at current. we commented on jennifer granholm's exuberance during the...
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i think mitt romney needs this to be that catalyst. >> okay. are you just trying to be right here? when you say they're both right it makes me think you're trying to hedge a bet here. one person said that there is not a make or break moment or they don't expect and that was paul ryan. chris christie said the next day, thursday, will be romney's time to shine because we will all be talking about how he basically hit it out of the park? >> well, you know, chris christie has a babe ruth in him, likes to point to the outfield and put mustache on the hot dog. i don't know that mitt romney is capable of one. but what mitt romney needs to do is begin a real conversation that's months overdue with the american people about why his presidency would be superior for the next four years and this is his last best chance to open and begin a conversation that's three months overdue. >> so michael, let me bring you in. "the washington post" asked folks who will win the debate. 55% said president obama, 31% said mitt romney. what do you think they're basing that on? >> i think they're basing it on
i think mitt romney needs this to be that catalyst. >> okay. are you just trying to be right here? when you say they're both right it makes me think you're trying to hedge a bet here. one person said that there is not a make or break moment or they don't expect and that was paul ryan. chris christie said the next day, thursday, will be romney's time to shine because we will all be talking about how he basically hit it out of the park? >> well, you know, chris christie has a babe...
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. >> i get to respond, right? >> mitt romney was able to beat his republican challengers with tough rebuttals and good lines. he's been prepping extensively for the debate tomorrow night. is that a good thing or bad thing? does he run the risk coming across too rehearsed? >> the fact they are spending eight days in debate camp is unprecedented, no question about that. the danger of that is you overprogram the guy to the point where he gets on that stage and he is in some invisible straitjacket. that's the last thing they need. bill clinton said something smart about debates. they are like jazz. there is a melody you have to play, but you have to be able to imp improvi improvise, as well. if you're too rigid, you don't hear the opportunity to riff. >> there is a rich history and not all of them involve what the candidate said rather than what they did. when president bush was checking his watch. the cut-aways are so pivotal to see what type of response the other candidate is having. the reaction, that is. both side
. >> i get to respond, right? >> mitt romney was able to beat his republican challengers with tough rebuttals and good lines. he's been prepping extensively for the debate tomorrow night. is that a good thing or bad thing? does he run the risk coming across too rehearsed? >> the fact they are spending eight days in debate camp is unprecedented, no question about that. the danger of that is you overprogram the guy to the point where he gets on that stage and he is in some...
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all right. howard fineman, thanks for your time tonight. good to have you here in denver. remember to answer tonight's question. share jr. thoughts on twitter at @edshow. coming up, chris christie says mitt romney will turn the presidential race upside down with his debate performance? chris california fee nous joins me for the conversation. things still get you. for you, life's about her. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do notrink alcohol in excess with cialis.
all right. howard fineman, thanks for your time tonight. good to have you here in denver. remember to answer tonight's question. share jr. thoughts on twitter at @edshow. coming up, chris christie says mitt romney will turn the presidential race upside down with his debate performance? chris california fee nous joins me for the conversation. things still get you. for you, life's about her. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use...
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. >> right now there's a romney strategist rushing a memo to mr. romney in his prep room saying, the liberals on msnbc say -- we'll see if they take this. we've got to take a quick break. tonight is probably as big as it gets in terms of the persuadable audience watching tonight to make up their mind between these two candidates. it may not get bigger than it is tonight. we have nbc's chuck today straight ahead with the latest numbers. we've got a lot to get to. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. >> i want you to know that, also, i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that ex
. >> right now there's a romney strategist rushing a memo to mr. romney in his prep room saying, the liberals on msnbc say -- we'll see if they take this. we've got to take a quick break. tonight is probably as big as it gets in terms of the persuadable audience watching tonight to make up their mind between these two candidates. it may not get bigger than it is tonight. we have nbc's chuck today straight ahead with the latest numbers. we've got a lot to get to. this is msnbc's live...
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right. yet he does have -- it's partly it's proffesorial. when he looks like john kennedy he's on an upslope. he's not so good when he thinks he is way ahead and konts respect an opponent. i have a hunch he is hearing that from his folks in that room in nevada saying, you can't make a mistake like that. >> part of it is who you compare him to. he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >> let's talk about mitt romney. strengths, weakness. >> mitt romney's strength is that he is, comes across as competent, as a capable human being. as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the private sector track record. the flip side, the weakness is the 47%. some of the attacks he's taken in terms of that business record. i think mitt romney's biggest problem though, chris, is the sense people can't be sure exactly if he believes what he's saying. he needs to project authen
right. yet he does have -- it's partly it's proffesorial. when he looks like john kennedy he's on an upslope. he's not so good when he thinks he is way ahead and konts respect an opponent. i have a hunch he is hearing that from his folks in that room in nevada saying, you can't make a mistake like that. >> part of it is who you compare him to. he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >>...
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and you're right, david, in this respect. the president has had four years to lay this out, and now a campaign. and the president's just trying to run out the clock. he desperately wants to run out the clock with platitudes which sound nice, and i give him that. the president is very good at that. but in the end, i think that both sides have to look at this campaign and say, what are we going to lay out over the next 36 days? and i think that's really important. and i think governor romney will lay out some very important points over the next 36 days that will make people believe once and for all that america can be great again. not just staggering along here economically as we've been doing. >> earlier this year, before he was the official nominee, you criticized mitt romney. you talked about his shortcomings, a failure to connect with people as a candidate. that criticism has not gone away. and then you had his secretly recorded speech at a fundraiser where he talked about the 47% believing that they were victims much. the
and you're right, david, in this respect. the president has had four years to lay this out, and now a campaign. and the president's just trying to run out the clock. he desperately wants to run out the clock with platitudes which sound nice, and i give him that. the president is very good at that. but in the end, i think that both sides have to look at this campaign and say, what are we going to lay out over the next 36 days? and i think that's really important. and i think governor romney will...
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in the mid 40s or so, so mitt romney is within striking distance right now but there's no doubt that 47% comment did hurt him. >> chris cizilla, a decision today in pennsylvania, a legal decision. >> yep. >> which could have a big impact because if pennsylvania ever were going to be in play, now it will not according to what the republican hopes had been. this was the voter i.d. law and struck down by a judge, said there's no way to get voter i.d.s to so many people in time for election day. >> right. this was always i think because as you point out, a narrow timeline, five weeks to the day from the election, but what this does is it does not put that strict voter i.d. law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and
in the mid 40s or so, so mitt romney is within striking distance right now but there's no doubt that 47% comment did hurt him. >> chris cizilla, a decision today in pennsylvania, a legal decision. >> yep. >> which could have a big impact because if pennsylvania ever were going to be in play, now it will not according to what the republican hopes had been. this was the voter i.d. law and struck down by a judge, said there's no way to get voter i.d.s to so many people in time...
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>> right. >> why not jump in and say, well, just a minute, governor romney. you just said i will pass a tax cut, but i will not pass a tax cut because if you do pass a tax cut, it's going to add to the deficit. so which is it? you know, you're contradicting yourself in the same sentence. and that sort of thing. and, again, one has to expect that the next debate will be different. but i thought there were 15 opportunities to jump in and say, gvovernor romney, that doesn't parse with what you just said, or that doesn't parse with what you said last week or, you know, gee, what about the 47%? but anyhow. that was the other night, and i guess we'll move on. >> i think we have a tendency to overthink these things in terms of the debate meant this, the debate meant that. most people aren't sitting around waiting for the fact checkers to show up. most people don't have paul krugman on speed dial to verify what was said or not said. but most people watching the debate know one thing about it. and they know that there's a lot of debate prep that goes on with both of t
>> right. >> why not jump in and say, well, just a minute, governor romney. you just said i will pass a tax cut, but i will not pass a tax cut because if you do pass a tax cut, it's going to add to the deficit. so which is it? you know, you're contradicting yourself in the same sentence. and that sort of thing. and, again, one has to expect that the next debate will be different. but i thought there were 15 opportunities to jump in and say, gvovernor romney, that doesn't parse with...
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romney very clearly pulls something from his right pocket and he pops it on to the podium in front of him. violation. violation. according to the conspiracy, complete with the grainy, slow mo youtube videos, this is mr. romney cheating. now he must have been working from note cards the entire debate. the explanation from the romney campaign is mr. romney was not pulling notes out of his pocket. he was pulling out of his pocket a handkerchief. sure enough, a little later on, oop, in the debate mr. romney is seen wiping his nose with said handkerchief. so whether you are persuaded by mitt romney wiping his nose on what is supposed to be his crib sheet notes, if you're on the left, again, like this is a conspiracy theory that just does not help. president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that, he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? ho
romney very clearly pulls something from his right pocket and he pops it on to the podium in front of him. violation. violation. according to the conspiracy, complete with the grainy, slow mo youtube videos, this is mr. romney cheating. now he must have been working from note cards the entire debate. the explanation from the romney campaign is mr. romney was not pulling notes out of his pocket. he was pulling out of his pocket a handkerchief. sure enough, a little later on, oop, in the debate...
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who right now trails the president in every battleground state. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with all the details. brian, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. for both campaigns, this first debate brings both challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the candidates. >> it will be a conversation with the american people that will span almost an entire month. we'll get to describe our respective views. >> reporter: romney is hoping to pick up a few votes with an endorsement from football great john elway. president obama is taking the personal approach to nail down support. >> this is barack obama. >> reporter: and like romney, the president sees this debate as a chance to talk to america. >> it's a choice between two different paths for this country. it's a choice between two fundamentally different visions for our nation. >> reporter: the president has a lead in all nine of the key battleground states including ohio, which begins early balloting today. >> romney's
who right now trails the president in every battleground state. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with all the details. brian, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. for both campaigns, this first debate brings both challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the candidates. >> it will be a conversation with the american people that will span almost an entire month. we'll get to describe our respective...
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right? at the moment, yes there's a lot of romney activity. ha they're doing -- and barack obama's speech is above that. what i love is the first lady's speech is above mitt romney's convention speech. >> i don't want us to lose touch of the importance of the human connection, of pressing the flesh. like you're saying, the trick is to web the two. we know from political science research, your direct mobilization is always going to be more effective than your indirect mobilization. eer getting better at it. it's a nice subsidy. you can't say oh, we're in a new technological era, we don't need boots on the street and you need boots on the street. >> that's right. bridging the virtual world with the physical word. that's when social media channels come to life and the magic happens. whoever coined the term social media didn't do us any favors. it's not really media. it's more like the telephone, less like the tv. when it comes to communication, we all revolve around communication. but when you can bring that vart ul world and physical world and m
right? at the moment, yes there's a lot of romney activity. ha they're doing -- and barack obama's speech is above that. what i love is the first lady's speech is above mitt romney's convention speech. >> i don't want us to lose touch of the importance of the human connection, of pressing the flesh. like you're saying, the trick is to web the two. we know from political science research, your direct mobilization is always going to be more effective than your indirect mobilization. eer...
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you have all this craziness on the right that mitt romney is not standing up. this is where the president said, he won't stand up to the craziness on the right. he didn't stand up to donald trump with the whole thing about the birthers. he's not standing up to -- >> morris, if you were a republican, morris, would you be standing? what would your reaction be? would you be saying something doesn't pass the smell test here? >> i would do what mccain did when a woman said those bad things about president obama, and he told her she was wrong. you need to stand up for the right thing. it's funny when the numbers work to the advantage of the republicans, everyone's happy with it. but when it doesn't work to their advantage, it's a conspiracy. do the right thing -- >> there's a conspiracy on the other side, morris, come on. >> i'm talking about what you guys are saying right now. i'm not talking about what the on the right or the left right now. jack welsh has done this, donald trump has done this, mitt romney hasn't stood up to anyone on the craziness on his party. th
you have all this craziness on the right that mitt romney is not standing up. this is where the president said, he won't stand up to the craziness on the right. he didn't stand up to donald trump with the whole thing about the birthers. he's not standing up to -- >> morris, if you were a republican, morris, would you be standing? what would your reaction be? would you be saying something doesn't pass the smell test here? >> i would do what mccain did when a woman said those bad...
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right now the president is traveling the fundraisers in los angeles, while mitt romney holds a rally in florida. and mitt romney will deliver a foreign policy speech at the virginia military institute in lexington. then on tuesday, both candidates will be in the midwest. the president will campaign in ohio, while mitt romney will campaign in ohio. >>> meanwhile, a brand-new poll from the university of denver shows the president with a 4-point lead, taken right after the first debate. and in florida, mitt romney thanked the campaign volunteers with a pizza, they urged the people to vote and vote early. >>> meanwhile, debating the debate, still the rage inside and outside the beltway. senior adviser robert gibbs sought to take the attention off the performance, while mitt romney found parallels. >> i think you're going to see a very engaged president that is ready and willing to call out whichever mitt romney shows up. >> and you have to admit that is not the president who showed up in the first debate? >> again, i'm not going to take away from mitt's masterful, theater performance. he
right now the president is traveling the fundraisers in los angeles, while mitt romney holds a rally in florida. and mitt romney will deliver a foreign policy speech at the virginia military institute in lexington. then on tuesday, both candidates will be in the midwest. the president will campaign in ohio, while mitt romney will campaign in ohio. >>> meanwhile, a brand-new poll from the university of denver shows the president with a 4-point lead, taken right after the first debate....
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and that's interesting because a lot of conservatives right now are calling for mitt romney to take a risk, to think outside of the box and really do something dramatic. but given the way the romney campaign runs their team, i doubt they'll do anything that risky. >> what about as we were just watching both of you, and i'll ask you first, joe heard joe biden i'm heard at the top. he is hitting home the medicare mess naj florida. is that a winning strategy? >> you know, it's worked in the past in election cycles we saw it pretty effective in 2010 when republicans used it against democrats. this cycle democrats especially in the house are trying to use it against republicans. i think it's effective with certain segments of the population. you mention the joe biden is in florida. that is exactly one of those populations you're talking about. groups and electorates and voting blocks that are 60 or 55 plus. that's where it's really going to resonate. >> david, can the romney camp send in a paul ryan the way obama sends in his vice-president? can he be that effective in the state of florida
and that's interesting because a lot of conservatives right now are calling for mitt romney to take a risk, to think outside of the box and really do something dramatic. but given the way the romney campaign runs their team, i doubt they'll do anything that risky. >> what about as we were just watching both of you, and i'll ask you first, joe heard joe biden i'm heard at the top. he is hitting home the medicare mess naj florida. is that a winning strategy? >> you know, it's worked...
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>> i think it's both, actually, right? i think that in the -- among a lot of republicans who supported george bush fervently in the first term and when he was popular, the disasters that befell the country during his term are something that caused a kind of cognitive dissidence, and you just really don't want to deal with it. so i think that there was -- i mean, i don't know, i'm not in the romney campaign, but i just have to think that had they factored in this problem in their strategy, in an johnson way, they might have been able to neutralize it. it's very late in the game to do that now. >> over and over, president obama has accused governor romney and congressman ryan of doubling down on president bu bush's policies. take a listen. >> instead of doubling down on the same trickle-down economics that got us in this mess in the first place, we need top keep moving forward. we don't need to double down on the same trickle-down policies that got us into this mess in the first place. the problem with what he's trying to se
>> i think it's both, actually, right? i think that in the -- among a lot of republicans who supported george bush fervently in the first term and when he was popular, the disasters that befell the country during his term are something that caused a kind of cognitive dissidence, and you just really don't want to deal with it. so i think that there was -- i mean, i don't know, i'm not in the romney campaign, but i just have to think that had they factored in this problem in their strategy,...
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mitt romney's got to find precisely the right arm slot. aggression with the right amount of respect for a popular president. he's got to figure out a way to flush out his agenda without getting to the unpopular parts he's been avoiding talking about like what are the tax breaks he's going to take to get the rates down. he's got to be on offense but not too much. it's hard. everything went right for george bush in 2000. gore was bad, he had orange make-up. he got in bush's face, that didn't go very well. bush overperformed, no foreign policy experience, he did very well. and the bush team outspun the gore people because they pushed their story line. and you went from, you know, minus five before the debate to plus a couple afterward and went on to win that disputed victory. but yes, romney can do it, he was a smart guy, good in most of the debates for the republicans. on the other hand, obama's pretty smart too and there's not much expectation to think he's going to screw up. >> what about, john, playing to that dull incompetent thing? he s
mitt romney's got to find precisely the right arm slot. aggression with the right amount of respect for a popular president. he's got to figure out a way to flush out his agenda without getting to the unpopular parts he's been avoiding talking about like what are the tax breaks he's going to take to get the rates down. he's got to be on offense but not too much. it's hard. everything went right for george bush in 2000. gore was bad, he had orange make-up. he got in bush's face, that didn't go...
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i think you're right. they usually think about me, paul ryan was everybody conservative republican five years ago. this was a great springboard for the future getting on this ticket. i'm starting to look at it and say, if romney/ryan does not win, his stock could go down long-term. >> here's the unfortunate truth. the last time a vice presidential nominee made a difference is when 1960 when lbj for texas. that's number one. number two, vice presidential running mates always, first thing is do no harm. we learned that obviously from sarah palin. most americans look at the vice presidential debate and say i'm still going to vote for romney or the president. unless there's a game changer like a sarah palin moment. that's not going to happen on thursday. i go back to my original point. these are two very smart people sticking to the talking points. at the end of the day, now what ryan does do for the ticket is he energizes the base on the republican side. also remember back in 2008 that joe biden and barack ob
i think you're right. they usually think about me, paul ryan was everybody conservative republican five years ago. this was a great springboard for the future getting on this ticket. i'm starting to look at it and say, if romney/ryan does not win, his stock could go down long-term. >> here's the unfortunate truth. the last time a vice presidential nominee made a difference is when 1960 when lbj for texas. that's number one. number two, vice presidential running mates always, first thing...